when are we going to see her perform this live?
Plese, view my coment in http://roisinmurphy.blogspot.com.br/2007/12/more-about-live-cd.html.Thank!
God, this is horrible. It makes me miss her work with Seiji.
One reason her work was better with Seiji is that she used a ghostwriter (not Seiji) around the time of Overpowered (and also Sow Into You). This is why the writing is far superior to the work she is doing now. I overheard this at a party from a very reliable source.
Supposedly she had a falling out with this ghostwriter and he won't help her write any new work until she apologizes and agrees to include him in the album credits. This is just what i overheard. Supposedly she could have had come out with 3 or 4 albums like overpowered by now if she would stop being so stubborn.
So i suppose this ghostwriter was also around the time of Forever More and the lot, since Roisin is, apparently, incapable of writing a decent song without his involvement.
nobody ever said she was incapable of writing her own songs, just that she used a ghostwriter on her two solo albums
considering the subject matter of her songs lately, the ghostwriter story makes sense...
So this ghostwriter helped her on Ruby Blue, didn't get any recognition, yet returned for Overpowered next to a slew of other writers and producers who got credits, and got duped again.
What subject matter? The songwriting on these songs is just fine. If you want to find fault with anything, it's the production.
According to this very reliable source, Ruby Blue and Overpowered were written at the same time but released at different times.
I heard from reliable sauce at the dinner that songwriter is Stefanni Germanotta.
I heard it's not Roisin singing on Ruby Blue and Overpowered, but Britney Spears. My source is very reliable, which is why i post this anonimously in the comment section of a fan forum.
^ that explaisn why Britney's boyfriend Roger Federer shadowly produced Rubt Blue and Overpowered
Michael, are you seriously suggesting the writing in Simulation is good?Anyway, I don't think it's her ability to write good lyrics, it's just her musical orientation shifting in a horrible direction. That and these Luca & Brigante guys (and whoever produced Simulation) are just laughable compared to how good Mark Brydon and Matthew Herbert are.
Simulation is a deep house track and the songwriting fits that kind of music. i happen to think it's a brilliant representation of the genre. You might not like the genre, but that doesn't make it bad.It was produced by DJ Parrott, who happens to be one of the people who brought house music to the UK scene in the 80s, who has put out some outstanding records on Warp Records, who worked with her on Overpowered, and who goes way back with both Roisin and Mark Brydon.
I think this rumour, if it actually exists, is echo of ages ago resolved conflict between Roisin and Calvin Harris
come on people, this is bullshit. do you actually believe Roisin needed a ghostwriter to write in for her when we have 4 Moloko records that clearly show she is more that capable of doing the job herself? as for the new tracks, it's still hard to tell which of them reflect her new sound, since most of it is stuff she recorded for other people's projects. Simulation, having been released under her own name, seems to indicate a proper old-school house direction. i'm fine with that.
Roisin may or may not have needed a ghostwriter and I would have no problem with it even if she had one.To me, the sad part is how shallow her music has become after Overpowerd, which in my opinion is betraying her gifts. I still have huge respect for her as an artist yet I'm heartbroken as a longtime follower.
I'm a lonterm fan myself and i totally respect your opinion.
Oh my, what a dramatic comment section. Ghostwriters and heartbreak and firm defenders of the queen... I love it!
Haha, It was about time!
What i find surprising is that people are so hateful of some of these tracks and argue their shallowness against Overpowered when i can't really see how Boadicea or Hold Up Your Hand or Flash Of Light are more shallow than, say, You Know Me Better or Footprints. And how is a beautifully layered disco piece like Simulation more shallow than Cry Baby? Dfferent strokes for different folks, i suppose.
I personally have never said tracks like Footprints or You Know Me Better were deep. I am comparing the new tracks against songs from Ruby Blue or certain Moloko tracks, which in my opinion reflect her true potential. Therefore, If you accept Familiar Feeling or Take My Hand as a yardstick for dance songs, Simulation looks quite disappointing.
I reffered to some of those tunes because I do not agree that in terms of songwritting depth it's gone downhill since Overpowered. And, you know, I love Moloko but Moloko was not an impeccable band when it came to quality control. They fluctuated a lot between the brilliant and the wilfully gimmicky and i think it's unfair to put them on such a pedestal and pretend nothing can compare with their records when a lot of Roisin's solo material (some of these random collaborations included) is, in my opinion, more consistently good. In what concerns Simulation, i never said it's the best song she has ever written. Judging by the context of its release it's more of a tastemaker than anything else. I don't think any of the other collaborations she has done are the best she can do, but I don't think they're indicative of a bad direction either. I would love for her to go down the house music route for a new record, but i don't think she has found the perfect recipe yet.
Unlike Roisin's dedicated defenders I can very well see why some people have trouble with these new sounds, but unlike them, I don't think it's a quality issue. It's a style issue, a genre issue, if you must. Someone else mentioned the fact that Simulation is a deep house track and a very good representation of it, and that's entirely true. In a way this is a bold move for her, going in this direction, because it means abandoning the pop structure which was prevalent on Overpowered, Ruby Blue and much of Moloko's music (particulalrly later stuff) and also narrowing her listening market, because deep house and its loungingly dissonan andt non-climactic self is certainly not for everyone.
http://sophieeggleton.blogspot.com/2012/10/my-interview-with-ed-piller-of-acid.html"It is the 25th Anniversary of the Acid Jazz label. Occasions like this tend to make you mull over the successes and failures of the duration. What moments stick out as the most triumphant and the most difficult?..one I would like to forget was the album by Cloud 9, a band put together by Mark Brydon who later established Moloko. The album was brilliant and destined for the charts - unfortunately, there was an uncleared sample on the album and the publishers came down on us like a ton of bricks. All 8,000 pre-sold records and CDs were confiscated on the day of release and destroyed, the band split in the resulting chaos. Disaster."That was close
Funny thing is that, among all of Roisin's fans, there really seems to be a consensus on Simulation and that is: "It is supposedly a great track of a certain genre, though the said genre is not my cake at all!"
@J.What you said is true, though I must add that Ruby Blue was a Jazz album more than anything, which in itself is an entirely different story and perhaps the reason why it is the underdog her discography.
I like Simulation and i like deep house as well. I'm just saying that some genres are harder to get into than others. Obviously, you can dislike the song purely because you thnik it's crap, nothing to do with deep house and stuff.Regarding Ruby Blue, the record did have some jazz influences, just as much as it had some soul influences, but the structure of most of the songs was a pop one, rather than a dance one. Same with Overpowered, same with loads of Moloko stuff. It wasn't actual dance music, it was music that embraced dance culture.
do you like my tight sweater = drum & bass + trip hop.i am not a doctor = drum & bass + dark trip hop.things to make and do = pop (who remind me some '70s music things)statues = pop + club (the classic for me)ruby blue = experimental jazzoverpowered = dancei think everybody can be happy with roisin murphy music, there is so much in 6 albums....personnaly, i prefer "i am not a doctor" and "statues".i really hate "overpowered" (too "bitchy", sofisticate and fm, on my opinion)last collaborations are no so bad. and i really prefer "flash of light" and "cre ni a forna" to "momma's place" for exemple (even though i like a little "momma's place").for me, roisin is good when she's surprised me with new kind of sound and music structures. "royal t" (a clear rap track), "hold up your hands" are my favourite collaborations. and about the ghost writer.... whe is the what if the what is in why...
Hate "Overpowered"? How could anyone hate "Overpowered"?
A new Flash of Light has been released on Beatport, featuring the original mix, the Solomun mix, the Blond:ish mix and the acapella
no news about "non credere"...
It's a boy
She named her daughter after Ireland's greatest female singer, so I presume she'll be calling this lad Bono?
I can't @ the idiot making up rumors that no one ever started about some magical ghostwriter.Roisin is very well known to be an amazing songwriter, and numerous of her colleagues have raved about what a creative individual she is.Firstly, Matthew Herbert, every time he talks about Ruby Blue, refers to it as a masterpiece, and when asked about Roisin, always praises her songwriting (and vocal) capabilities.Oh, don't forget, Seiji, Andy Cato, and illFactor all on various occasions said she was one of their favorite people to work with because of how talented she was (ESPECIALLY Andy Cato.)And did you know that Royal T was entirely her idea? Yes, one of the members of Crookers (can't remember which,) said in an interview that they were only supposed to do Hold Up Your Hand with Roisin, but they had leftover time, and she just whipped out all these crazy ideas and essentially wrote Royal T on the spot. And THEN continued to rave about what a creative individual she is (and even said he wanted to do an ENTIRE ALBUM with her.)The entire discography of Moloko was lyrically mostly Roisin's work. Mark wrote lyrics too, but almost all of it was Roisin's writing (I'm sure almost all of the producing was his, however.)So sit the fuck down, or leave and go back to mother monster, and stop pretending like there is some rumor that DOES NOT EXIST. Roisin is neither famous enough nor controversial enough to have tabloid rumors started about her, so the fact that you're just pulling shit out of your ass, out of nowhere, proves to me one of the following:1. You're a troll2. You're a little monster who still wishes to drag on this war that never even existedor3. You're a fucking idiot.k? thx. byeeeeeeeee.
I love this last comment !
What does people do when they don't have anything to do? talk. usually made up shit about other people, like kesha writting secretly for bjork because she can't write a song, or guetta producing anonimously for andy cato, cause he doesn't know how to produce, or the terrible fight between virgin mary and abraham lincoln regarding a loaned and never returned dirty handkerchief soiled and rumoured snatched by lindsay lohan, or other crap that doesn't even fit as fiction.anyway... gaga backbone writer to murphy... that's beyond far fetched.
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